SG FooCamp ‘08: Where do we go from here?

What a week its been. This past weekend was SG FooCamp ‘08 (more on that below), on Tuesday I got a new job and then yesterday we made the long-awaited announcement around Google, IBM, Microsoft, VeriSign and Yahoo! joining the OpenID Foundation board. Add to that trying to get a house ready to sell, moving, finding new office space in Portland and speaking at Ignite Portland 2 this has easily been the craziest (and most fun) week I’ve had in years. I really wish I’d had time to write this post earlier in the week.

What I really want to talk about here is about where we’re at now that the dust has settled from SG FooCamp ‘08. When David and I cooked up this event we had one thing in mind and it quickly morphed into something else. The outcome from my perspective was an entirely positive one. Lots of amazing people got to make some really great connections, people hacked on code, discussions (heated and otherwise) were heartfelt and engaging all weekend long.

That said, I’ve certainly taken my fair share of abuse for organizing the event. It was invite-only and for that I’m more than willing to take some heat. David and I chose the invite list and the reality was, there was a finite amount of room (we somehow crammed 105 people in over the weekend and a good chunk of those slept in tents in 30F+ weather). Okay, so where does that leave us?

In my travels this past week, in blog posts I’ve read, in people I’ve seen (even at Ignite Portland) it was clear that everyone wished they could be at SG FooCamp ‘08. People want an open discussion about these things. Me too. And even more so now that we had this event last weekend. Social graph/data portability/distributed social networking/etc … this is as much of a technical problem as it is a policy and best practices one. The weekend showed to me the passion that a small group could have around this space. What if we expanded the scope significantly?

We already have the Internet Identity Workshop as well as the Data Sharing Summit. Both of these are open-space style events and both are really well attended and organized. I think there is room for something combined or even expanded in scope.

I can foresee two tracks to an event like this. One would cover the hacking pieces. How can we use XMPP? What does Google’s Social Graph API reveal? What are the hard problems devs are dealing with? The other track would cover the policy and best practices components. How do we put users in control of their data? What should be the rules/best practices around scrapping? Who owns my data? Yes, I’m suggesting that we bring together a cross-section of people to discuss this. This could/should even be an extension of the DataPortability work going on. Its not a contest and its not about size, but I could easily see 1000 people coming to an event like this and I can only imagine the intensity and camaraderie being 10x what we had at SG FooCamp ‘08.

Okay, so … who’s going to do it? I was really hoping to hear word of a another Data Sharing Summit from Marc and Kaliya. I think its a great basis for this event and I’d love to help make it a reality. The sooner the better in my opinion. People are hungry to discuss this and with the maturation of technologies like OpenID, OAuth and microformats we have the building blocks we need to make it happen. I’m ready to roll up my sleeves, anybody else?

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    I’m not going to volunteer to organize it, since I’m already taking the lead on the second BarCampPortland in May. However, if you want to do it here in Portland, I’m happy to help out.

    I think Portland is a great place to have this, and I would like to help, but I’m also super-busy until after BarCamp and other events in May.

    Great Post Scott,
    We are working on Data Sharing Summit 2. My sense is that around Web 2.0 expo time would be great - lots of folks from out of town. Would give enough time to plan well and get sponsors. To create a good space costs money. IIW and DSS were not ‘free’ events - they are about 50/50 paid for by attendees paying and sponsorship. Working on getting the details in place this week. Thoughts and advice about making this event are welcome.

    Hi Scott

    I really don’t understand the reaction of some people whose noses seem out of joint because they didn’t get invited. Since when did it become wrong to invite a group of people to your office to talk about a particular subject, and not make the event open house - especially when you’re paying the bills? The fact that the subject covered “open” technologies is totally irrelevant. If I have one person over for dinner to talk about open source software, does that mean I should take heat if I don’t also invite Richard Stallman? What if I ask 2? 3? 100? Like I said, I don’t get it. You should just ignore the heat, it’s unjustified. Sure, these things need wide debate and the more input the better, but that doesn’t mean Tim O’Reilly or you or anyone can’t organize a private event. So a few people are offended at not being invited. Tough. What’s the world coming to?

    Oops, I left my name off the above.

    Kaliya will take the lead on DatSharingSummit 2 - as I’m an entrepreneur busy BUILDING systems that support these standards and principles.

    Kaliya will be reaching out to sponsors to pay for a space and her time.

    We’ll ask the DataPortability folks to participate, as we’ll also ask Google and Facebook and Microsoft and Yahoo and MySpace and SixApart and the OpenID foundation and DISO. My bet is that they’ll ALL wish to participate. In an open manner.

    No closed doors. No exclusions.

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