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	<title>Comments on: Announcing: OpenID Foundation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Undevelopment Blog &#187; Happily Ever After?</title>
		<link>http://kveton.com/blog/2007/02/05/announcing-openid-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>The Undevelopment Blog &#187; Happily Ever After?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s official. CardSpace and OpenID are married. And since nobody seems to know who the bride is, an OpenID Foundation is being formed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s official. CardSpace and OpenID are married. And since nobody seems to know who the bride is, an OpenID Foundation is being formed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OpenID creates a foundation as Microsoft pledges support at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://kveton.com/blog/2007/02/05/announcing-openid-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-8561</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenID creates a foundation as Microsoft pledges support at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read it around the web, but, hot on the heels of the creation of the OpenID Foundation, the news from the RSA Security conference is that Bill Gates has announced Microsoft&#8217;s intention to support OpenID 2.0. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read it around the web, but, hot on the heels of the creation of the OpenID Foundation, the news from the RSA Security conference is that Bill Gates has announced Microsoft&#8217;s intention to support OpenID 2.0. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kveton</title>
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		<dc:creator>kveton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, no one is more leery of Microsoft than me.  I&#039;ve made it a point to make sure that software does not require lock-in.  This is one of the main reasons I founded the &lt;a href=&quot;http://osuosl.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OSL&lt;/a&gt;.

We are all very concerned of the scenario you mention.  However, looking at the existing technology and the fact that Microsoft has agreed to an open specification promise with regards to it, does give us some confidence.

My thought on this is that CardSpace is going to be out there no matter what.  Its a great way to secure your identity as well as ensure privacy when you want to.  However, it misses out on the &quot;public&quot; side of my identity.  OpenID is the perfect compliment to that.

It should be noted that yes we do support the work of Microsoft with respect to CardSpace we will never &lt;strong&gt;require&lt;/strong&gt; the use of CardSpace for our users (I&#039;m speaking with my JanRain hat on).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, no one is more leery of Microsoft than me.  I&#8217;ve made it a point to make sure that software does not require lock-in.  This is one of the main reasons I founded the <a href="http://osuosl.org" rel="nofollow">OSL</a>.</p>
<p>We are all very concerned of the scenario you mention.  However, looking at the existing technology and the fact that Microsoft has agreed to an open specification promise with regards to it, does give us some confidence.</p>
<p>My thought on this is that CardSpace is going to be out there no matter what.  Its a great way to secure your identity as well as ensure privacy when you want to.  However, it misses out on the &#8220;public&#8221; side of my identity.  OpenID is the perfect compliment to that.</p>
<p>It should be noted that yes we do support the work of Microsoft with respect to CardSpace we will never <strong>require</strong> the use of CardSpace for our users (I&#8217;m speaking with my JanRain hat on).</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Daley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Daley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day I have to contend with interoperability issues between Microsoft and Open Source products.

The facts are - Microsoft&#039;s proprietary extensions to core technologies such as DNS, Kerberos, SMB, CIFS, email and calendar technologies etc etc make interoperability with Open Source products very painful. Furthermore, every new version of Windows (and thankfully there haven&#039;t been too many lately!) introduces new gotchas to make life difficult.

So my question to the OpenID Foundation - given your new friendly relationship with Microsoft CardSpace - what guarantees will there be that Microsoft won&#039;t extend to extinguish?

Kim Cameron may be truly dedicated to doing the right thing. However, one day he will be gone. What guarantee is there that having established CardSpace as a ubiquitous technology, it then adds proprietary extensions that yet again makes interoperability with Open Source products?

The reality is that Kim Cameron does not make the final decision on such matters. In reality it is the likes of Steve Ballmer and Microsoft sales executives who will always have the last say on implementations of technology strategies designed to lock-out competitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day I have to contend with interoperability issues between Microsoft and Open Source products.</p>
<p>The facts are &#8211; Microsoft&#8217;s proprietary extensions to core technologies such as DNS, Kerberos, SMB, CIFS, email and calendar technologies etc etc make interoperability with Open Source products very painful. Furthermore, every new version of Windows (and thankfully there haven&#8217;t been too many lately!) introduces new gotchas to make life difficult.</p>
<p>So my question to the OpenID Foundation &#8211; given your new friendly relationship with Microsoft CardSpace &#8211; what guarantees will there be that Microsoft won&#8217;t extend to extinguish?</p>
<p>Kim Cameron may be truly dedicated to doing the right thing. However, one day he will be gone. What guarantee is there that having established CardSpace as a ubiquitous technology, it then adds proprietary extensions that yet again makes interoperability with Open Source products?</p>
<p>The reality is that Kim Cameron does not make the final decision on such matters. In reality it is the likes of Steve Ballmer and Microsoft sales executives who will always have the last say on implementations of technology strategies designed to lock-out competitors.</p>
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