BBauth and OpenID Discussions
Lots and lots and lots and lots of discussion going on regarding BBauth and OpenID.
Kim Cameron had an interesting post today concerning the interface issues with BBauth as well as OpenID:
My concerns really originate with the user interface issues. And OpenID has the same problems to the extent that people end up with multiple identity providers (which they will).
I appreciate Kim’s passion about InfoCards and the concept of a consistent user interface. I think its a fantastic idea. So let’s be pragmatic about it. We’re here today: no consistent user interface, lots of usernames and passwords and phishing is a huge problem. We want to get here: consistent user interface, one username and password and phishing becomes a thing of the past. Great. Where do we start? I don’t think InfoCard is the answer. Let me explain.
How do we know InfoCard provides a great interface for users? When I first saw and used an InfoCard it freaked me out. “What the heck is popping onto my screen?!” Talk about a paradigm shift. Answering the this-is-a-great-user-interface question is an iterative process. It takes time and lots and lots of user input. The fact is we have no idea how users are going to use user-centric identity so how can we make assumptions about the user interface today that aren’t iterative?
But if this type of SSO were to become a massive success, that success would bring about its downfall. For it would then be worth attacking and very vulnerable at the same time.
If something like OpenID or BBAuth takes off, there won’t be a downfall. The platform will continue to evolve and get better. Is InfoCard the final and complete answer? We have no idea. The real question is which platform is best suited to constant evolution? Like Kim is a broken record about InfoCards (his words, not mine), I’m the same way about OpenID … :-) I believe OpenID is best suited to this kind of evolution.
OpenID is incremental by its nature. Its not a quantum leap. Its a URL. Users today are starting to think more and more in terms of URL’s … just ask a MySpace or blog user (I have cold hard data on this one; my babysitter is a MySpace user). Its iterative. We’re not trying to boil the ocean in the first go at this. We don’t know how users are going to use this thing. So let’s make the fewest number of assumptions for the users before we deliver something. Watch how they use it, find out what makes sense. Repeat.
Is BBauth, CardSpace or OpenID the end-all-be-all solutions for single sign-on? Definitely not today. One thing is clear though; companies and users alike are seeing the value of user-centric identity and its slowly but surely happening; CardSpace, OpenID and BBauth are clear indications of this. This stuff doesn’t happen overnight but the ship is slowly turning in the right direction.
I agree that OpenID has the potential to become the most inclusive identity platform. What will happen with BBAuth and other identity silos is that eventually (read: very soon) developers will want to mashup services from multiple sites (like Yahoo and Google) and the solution will be that someone authors an OpenIdP (is that a word?) that stores the login credentials of these silos, logs them in transparently and passes through the tokens to the consuming site. By the very fact of big sites failing to embrace OpenID they have guaranteed its success.
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